HELP!!! Splash Shield, Engine Shield, Water Shield???

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    Stormin' Norman Well-Known Member

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    Andy and I were working on his car, sometime ago, and then again yesterday, and I asked him if he knew the name of these floppy fabric woven rubberoid shields that hang down in the engine compartment, off the inner side of the frame, parallel to the engine. They're only about 1/8" thick X 8" or 9" high X 18" (approx.) long.

    If I could get the right material (looks like the old pre-carpet floor coverings in early model chevies (mid-fifties?) black, probably fire-retardant.

    I don't have any. Andy's are pretty sad on his 1978 wagon, and the donor didn't have any. Here's what they look like from a 1979 2-door Fairmont coupe's engine compartment:

    Driver's side (LH) - Inside view:
    79FairmontInsideWaterShield.jpg

    Outside view:
    79FairmontLHSideWaterShield.jpg

    From under the bumper:
    79FairmontLHSideWaterShieldFrtVu.jpg

    Passenger side (RH):
    79FairmontRHSideWaterShield.jpg

    I looked through the Factory Manuals (Chassis and Body) and I can't find them even in verbal instructions (Remove/Install).

    I tried searching for them. NADA!!!

    Any ideas?
     
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    I just searched for "Woven Rubber Mat" and then "Woven Rubber", but its similar to V-Belt stock or conveyor belt stock, but thin (just under an 1/8") and flexible (to clear snowdrifts, sand dunes, dead skunks... ;), curbs.)

    Why would you need it? My guess is that it keeps the alternator and ignition parts dry from wheel splash. Anyway, it makes sense to me, and even if it is sort of floppy, we could cut it with tinsnips (making a template) and put an aluminum or plastic stiffener edge through the fasteners into the existing clip holes. They look like wiring harness T-clips with barbed prongs.

    I'll keep looking, but if anyone has a tip or link, chime in, huh? :bowdown: :cry:
     
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    One VWs they are called tar boards.
     
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    Are yours still on? Would you measure the length and height, please, if they are?:)
     
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    All mine are present. I'll try to get measurments tonite if I remember. The one on the right I'm sure is to protect the alternator and the vapor canister. The one on the left has nothing to protect except maybe the distributor from splash. They are held on with plastic "buttons" similar to the ones that hold the hood insulation to the inside of the hood except they are somewhat smaller. I'll try to take pictures too.

    It will be somewhat challenging as it was 106* yesterday and will be 108* today. I might just get sweaty!

    :cheers:
     
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    Go figure eh! I've got my first bone-aching cold and we'll be at 52F today, and you're frying eggs on the driveway! Crazy! Thanks. We've got nothing to compare with, so far.
     
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    Right hand splash shield: I unfastoned it from the alternator bracket and lower radiator support to drop down so you can see the shape.

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    Non-artist drawing of the right splash shield:
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    RH splash shield installation drawing:
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    LH splash shield photo:
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    LH splash shield non-artist drawing:
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    Front lower air dam:
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    I hope this helps. I had forgotten that they weren't simple rectangles.:evilsmile: The material is a plastisized fiberboard of some type about 3/16" thick. Although mine are a little dirty they look pretty new with no deterioration from exposure. If you get some large ones from a truck it probably won't be a huge effort to cut out smaller ones for the cars.:thumbs2:
     
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    Holy smokes! Thanks for all that! (y)

    Cardboard templates coming up - ASAP!

    I like that front Air Dam, where do you park the car? :evilsmile:
     
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    I just saw a Ford Taurus Site where they called it a Spat - As in Mud Spat. It seems the Taurus got them Front and Rear.

    http://www.fordtaurus.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4295&start=0

    Anyway the trick to that search was to use the middle Part Number in Google. I got that from the EBay link, and Bingo! I got 6 hits. And then your pictures... Well, even if I'm stuck with this gawd-awful cold, I can cut cardboard! Really appreciate the effort, especially in that heatwave you've got right now. Thanks. :)
     
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    I like that front Air Dam, where do you park the car? :evilsmile:[/quote]

    In the garage. And you're welcome. I hope the drawings help and are big enough to see. If not let me know and I'm PM them to you bigger. I included dimensions.
     
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    It's more than enough! I can tweak it once I get the patterns made. Did they accumulate any muck? We get a lot of rain and slush, so I could add a couple extra drain holes/slots.

    Yours look molded, in spots (swaybar attachment area).

    I'll put out an ECN once I get them done (Engineering Change Notice)! :D
     
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    In the garage. And you're welcome. I hope the drawings help and are big enough to see. If not let me know and I'm PM them to you bigger. I included dimensions.[/quote]

    Bigger would be nice on the drawings. The other pics are fine. Thanks.
     
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    No mold just old dirt. I did have to use the broom to remove the spider webs before pictures tho. :D We'd have to have more than 4" of rain a year to get muck.:rofl2:

    That right side almost completely covers the alternator. Mine is mounted very low due to the a/c compressor being above it.
     

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