Wagon Living Product ideas!

With your vision on products I can partly agree. Your example of compressors for instance. I do agree that older stuff is mostly much more durable, but don't forget, that my father who was a fine-mechanic and not paid the lowest of the lowest could never affort a compressor in his time, while now almost everyone can. I do agree that the amount of low quality stuff has increased enormously, but good stuff can still be found. The low quality stuuf is just so cheap, it just makes it more affordable for those "10 times in a life time" jobs. I always have used old handsaws because I thought they were much better (you know, the ones with the wooden cut handles) setting teeth every time. Now I bought a new one with hardened teeth which is sharper, straighter and will last much longer!
But besides the products, I thought your remark was more to the generation (we). THAT is certainly something I don't agree with!!!

 

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT,

 

We? Let's take a look at that. On this and many forums, there are lots of Father/Son pairs, lots of 30 somethings and up to 70-ish hobbyists who bring old-school skills, with old-school tools, and old-school techniques. Other than plastics and body/paint areas, there isn't much of a change for cars, up to 199x. But we bring those old skillsets as practical, pragmatic and down-to-earth evidence that our previous generation(s) passed onto us. Si? o No?

Andy and I just went to a local bodyshop Customer Appreciation Day, this PM. Most of the owners were 60 to 70, and the younger ones were 30 to 45. Hands on. Not pondering their iPod.

 

We like to crack the walls and see if they hold us back. That's not a fight.

 

Norman, first I like to say that I hope you are not offended, it was certainly not intended!! As we will discuss more, you will notice that I really like to play the devil's advocate, so don't always take me too serious.
But on the subject now. My response was about this sentence :"We're the last of the Hand's On Ingenuity generation."
I have the utmost respect for your generation (if that is what you ment, maybe we just have a language problem here!), but I have heard so many times that almost everything that came after them, so including my generation, CAN only play with their phones. I have met many "younger generation" people which were very skilled, just as you wrote. Maybe not always in the same things, but as the world is changing, so are the skills. I learned a lot from my father, which was a fine mechanic and for a hobby has built model trains, boats and planes. He was Dutch champion model airplanes back in 1957, third in the European model Stockcar racing and actually the first in the world who handbuilt a 1:32 steamlocomotive running on real coles! So I am actually one of those schoolbook examples you just wrote about! Enough with the boasting now.
I actually think we agree, or??

 

Senri, No way have you offended me. I figured it was a colloquial language thing, and so I pressed on with more information. I figured we agreed.

One of my dad's first best friends after WWII was from Holland. My dad was 6 feet tall, and 200 lbs in 1953. Jon Sweep, his huge Dutch friend was 6 foot 6" inches tall. Jon was a pussy cat, a gentle giant, but he could not tolerate lazy people. His oldest son was my best friend, Sebastian. Another huge kid. Anyway, Jon worked at the General Motors plant, built 3 houses because his family went from 5 kids (when they came to Canada, we had just bought a big 3 storey house and they moved upstairs) and we were 3 kids -2 others later), to 13 kids! And he owned a small dairy farm.

When dad and I and his son and he got together to build his 3 houses, 2 years apart between the first, then the second, and finally the third, you'd think they were fighting, but they were just debating loudly.

After a few shots of Schnapps, they'd go out and throw horseshoes in the yard, and go back to work. His wife was the fighter, but she realized that my mother had come from a family of 11 kids, and might as well not get her too excited. She was right too. My mother was a tough woman, I always teased her because she was the youngest of 11, and fought dirty. She could argue her way out of a nuclear bomb! The bomb would snuff out!

Now about those button-pushing youngsters...

I was an early geek, started using the Internet when it was called Inet on a 300 BAUD modem, at $100 per hour. Science stuff and Marketing data. I had one of the original XEROX faxes with the tube-type electrostatic paper (if you left it in sunlight, the message would disappear). I was a punchcard Fortran IV programmer and a CNC programmer, but I'll take a handsaw and hammer and chisel up with the best. I love woodwork and carpentry. Concrete is not my bag, but I can do it. Carving? Nope. No artsy in me. For some reason, I'm too slow at non-linear art, but I am a fanatic about it. I couldn't play a wooden flute, but I have a trained ear for Jazz. So in some things I'm a good audience, in others, I get down and shine. Like most people, right?

How's your vacation?

 

They say you can buy anything on Ebay. Well, my sister says that, anyway.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ford-Treasury-o...VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247

 

So that's where the Rev got that picture! I thought it was from his private library, right next to his Hi-Jack Daniels.

 

WHAT THA?????.....apparently someone "HYJACKED" my picture!!!!!!

off this sight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...WTF??

Normin...I have 3 copies of each one!..hard cover,soft, and pamphlet style!

 

Mea culpa! Go get him Rev, before those whore-moans settle!

 

akshoeally....that may be purely coinkydinkle...that they have DAM near the same carpet as I!!

heres the pic i put up ages ago...(too much coffee)..i may have to settle down

 

T'weren't moi.

 

I got some images on a blog for volume one and two and posted them in the gallery. $42 bucks is high. Others are at $14.95 to $20, but I'm gonna check at the Public Library and see if they're doing their bi-annual sale before school starts.

 

I thought they'd be scarce, but apparently not.
Amazon has 'em for $10.00. http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000GS6APU/ref=dp_olp_2

Here's a knitting blog that has lots of pix.
http://knittingiris.typepad.com/knitting_iris/2008/05/ford-treasury-o.html
and: http://knittingiris.typepad.com/knitting_iris/2008/05/ford-treasury-o.html
Is that where you "borrowed" your images, Norm?
You do get around!

 

Yep. I liked her road stories too! Not a bad place to send the SWMBO when she's making a fuss about "And another wagon!!!" The only thing now is they watch the gas prices too, in the groceries.

I just back from a local Safeway 3 lbs of salted, No Name peanuts, $11.00 dollars. 2 weeks ago, $7.00. Jimmy Carter's still on a roll.