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Our county(COWETA, Ga) is known to be pretty tough on contractors for codes. But they miss stuff too. The last DC I worked in they missed the main door from warehouse to office area......it opened the wrong way. Might have been some other items too but don't remember right now.

 

As for metal buildings, comercial or residential...they can creek and mown, depending but I'll leave that one alone because different climates will do different things..... example.. Florida and or california compared to my wet coast climate, it's so different that, even in a perfect world what works out there just is'nt gona work here and visa versa.........


But hey, we are all here today to... with our views and thats what matters, rite?



So, have some pics of..... High and low voltage lines that were not suppossed to be where they were found, compliments of 1980.....

We did the same cut through on the other side, and missed....Yeah, that sure is 12 inches below the slab of 5 inches...notice concrete is apx 3 inches thick over the electrical..... and now we know why the crack follows that line.


And how we found out we won the lottery, with "Bob, the cat"...


The low voltage line, and a phone line.....it's all cleaned up now

 

There is a really cool new doc program on PBS that I have been watching, I highly recommend seeing it. Its called America Revealed. The episode I saw last night was about US industry and they showed one building in a ship construction yard that is over a century old. Still in use today. And you couldnt tell its age by looking at it. Things just had more care, attention, and the work was taken more seriously and done with more pride with the end result by all who did the work... If not at least by a greater percentage than today...

 

@ Xavier
We live in a disposable society these days. Things are no longer built to last a lifetime and beyond. If they were, they couldn't keep selling us new ones.
Remember when Bic lighters were refillable?

 

Yep. I also remember living in a big old house built in the late 1800s...

 

When I worked in construction I saw countless examples of the builders becoming friends with the inspectors. As a result the inspectors trusted the contractor to do things right because they've seen them do it in the past. All it takes is one idiot to do it wrong and, because nobody checks up on them, it gets a pass.

My father is a member of the local Royal Canadian Legion. As their membership is dwindling, they sold their building and recently took possession of a newly built smaller one. Dad went to one of the meetings one night to hear folk complaining about the kitchen drains backing up in the new building. They had it checked out and discovered that the building had run the drain pipes under the building, but no further. The building was done and they weren't connected to the sewage system!! The drains were just left stubbed into the dirt under the floor. Mind boggling!!

When I left the alarm industry and wasn't working on job sites anymore, I took a job with a security equipment manufacturer that made low voltage power supplies and electromagnetic locking devices. A mandatory requirement of making those power supplies was that every unit had to be put through a "High Pot" test. Essentially every supply had to be subjected momentarily to extremely high voltage to ensure it didn't pass the voltage through to connected equipment. When the inspector came in and realized that I was not the usual employee, he asked to see the high-pot tester. It couldn't be found. He gave me a week to find it and get the tests implemented or he would remove our certification and then start looking closely at the other product lines. Ultimately I found it on a shelf 15 feet in the air in the back of the warehouse. Apparently my predecessor had been saying "Yep, we do that test on every unit." for the last 10 years! Because the inspector trusted her, no one ever asked to see the test performed.

The electromagnetic locks that we sold had to be installed to meet numerous Building Codes, Fire Codes, and Life Safety Codes. While there are generalized codes for Canada, there are sub sections of the codes for each province as well as each municipality. So a rule that might apply or not apply in one city could be ignored or strictly enforced in another. In addition to that, the final decision is based upon the codes' interpretation by the Local Authority Having Jurisdiction (the local inspector in the field or LHJ). Each inspector interprets the meaning of the codes differently. In my home town we had two fire inspectors and they each interpreted the codes differently. One would allow certain things to pass (and would often pass things based on the fact that he knew the company to have done good work in the past), while the other would insist that the code stated it couldn't be done and didn't care who you were or how many times you had done it. I spent several years as a phone support rep for that company helping both installers and the inspectors understand how the codes should be interpreted and always marveled at the different ways people could read the same paragraph in a book.

 

It amazes me that any one would knowingly compremise the safety of others like that or for money. The latter is shockingly common here in Joplin... The stories I can tell about this city...

 

Just horific to imagine......

Yesterday afternoon a worker fell into the steel shredder at our steel scrap yard. I do not know him but I now know his name, though out of respect I won't mention it.

My thoughts go out to the family and his workmates, as there were several who witnessed it from a distance.

http://video.cheknews.ca/services/p...UUKauc2zn_kmUm9i-CLdp2qnb&bctid=1623691495001

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/th...t+Victoria+recycling+plant/6573534/story.html

 

Wow, thats awful!

 

Oh man, Tedy, what a horrible thing to happen. How sad for every one involved.

 

Oh Tedy how awful.

What dreadful way to die.

It is going to be very difficult for you and your coworkers for a long time...be strong.

 

fannie, not my company....I only found out the name through friends of friends as it is a small world on the island. I do know some of the drivers though and will be chatting with them once our steel bin is exchanged.

Alot of rumour is going around, and 3 out of 4 stories about what exatly happened are pritty much the same but untill police or workers comp make a statement I'm not comenting.

35 years old,,,,RIP

 

Omg 35!

 

Hope the family are coping. what a tragedy.

 

"There was an entire month were my pee smelled exactly like marshmallows."
- Will Ferrall