How much is gas in your neighborhood?

oh crap, your car is too nice. you can't park by me

Well you got it to work. when you upload pictures/videos, it tells you what extension you can use.

Here is the link to the site.

http://www.wheelsandwaves.com/

Hope you can make it. I'll come down and buy breakfast. Meeting my, friend who has a same color as yours, chevy wagon.

May 18th.

 

3.34 a gal

 

Our dollar is at Par with the US. Our gallon is one Quart more: $1.20 per Liter or $6.00 per Canuck gallon/ $4.80 per US gallon. It's coming guys. I can imagine what the Pickup truck guys are mumbling about.

 

Just for Perspective - A gallon jug of Milk is $3.99 (US Gallon jug - 3.83 liter jug). Bleach is a CDN Gallon at $2.49. Distilled Alcohol for washing up injuries is $2.89 per liter. You use a water/alcohol mix during summer of 20% (75 cents) per US gallon injected into through the carb or EFI and get 15-20% better mileage on a 16 gallon tank of gas. $10 bucks worth of plastic and hose? No brainer.

 

huh??? how?

 

I just got my latest update on Green Fuels. You ain't gonna like it:

http://www.motherearthnews.com/Green-Transportation/Ethanol-Pros-And-Cons.aspx

You might like this though (water injection):
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/ethanol_motherearth/me3.html

Or off the shelf?:
http://www.turbomirage.com/water.html

 

so in short
ethanol bad now maybe better later but very inneficient.
water/alky injection good up to 6% better.
off the shelf unit = $$!!!
que la chingada, nombre! ill stick with gas.

 

That second link gives you all the tech to make your own with a windshield fluid tank and a couple hoses. In 1980 it cost the guy $5.82. That off-the-shelf unit might be $10.00 today, 28 years later.

The commercial version is probably as high as people are willing to pay, but I think that site starts at $199, then down to $99, then down to $59.

Other places charge more, but it's as simple as that design that's in the second link.

 

but how does the fuel get into the carb? the vacumm port right? you are essentially sucking in the vapors from the alcohol and water mix? or the fluid itself?

 

It vaporizes in the combustion chamber creating higher pressure, steam and more HP = less gasoline used. It also cleans out the carbon in the combustion chamber = cleaner running engine and valve train.

 

$arge, I just used the Search on Mother Earth News to search for 'distillery', and got 24 articles, some with complete plans for a home-based Ethanol production unit, you can build yourself.

http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?search=distillery

The big challenge will be finding Alcohol-tolerant gaskets and sealants. (And adding a larger fuel tank.)

The only reason that its E90 or E85, is that they can't justify the cost of refining the alcohol to a higher grade. It needs more heat and they can't do that without using more hydro or building massive solar panels, but you can build one out of an old dualpane window and some PVC pipe.

Look, I'm gonna build one this year and track my results. First, I try the water injection system, and tune the car with that. Then I gotta figure the other one with ethanol for newspaper and sawdust (I'm always making stuff.)

The old Model-T's ran on Ethanol in 1907, and some of the newer BMW's run on water injection.

 

wait couldn't a distillery be considered a "moonshine plant" by some folks?
hmmm moonshine

 

Well, what would you call it? Purified Seattle Intelligencer?

 

You're right. At the bottom of the first article, it says that you have to get a permit from the Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms department US ATF.

If you know anything about Al Capone's booze scam, during Prohibition, one of our old families here in my Province, used to ship it from Canada. Today, it owns the Seagrams company. The result is that we're allowed legally, with no permit, up to 400 gallons. Go figure.

 

DIY Ethanol Still Article:

Were visual kinda guys so here's a picture, and the article link follows:



http://www.motherearthnews.com/Renewable-Energy/1979-03-01/Mother-Is-Making-Fuel.aspx

And one other trick is an in-car Ethanol Pre-heater, also DIY:
http://www.motherearthnews.com/Renewable-Enegy/1980-01-01/Mothers-Alcohol-Fuel-Preheater.aspx

And making your own Fuel Mash:
http://www.motherearthnews.com/Do-It-Yourself/1979-05-01/Mothers-Alcohol-Fuel-Cookbook.aspx

You should use that Search link I posted earlier, because there's lots of other ways. The main advantage of that Solar unit above is that you can build it cheaply and try it out, before you decide whether it makes sense for you. The second advantage is to see that the ATF is supportive, and some States are encouraging it.