Carb/Distributor Swap?

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    Clint, having directed the film, knew nothing about the Marine Corps, being a draftee himself who never even once saw action outside of a swimming pool
     
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    Silvertwinkiehobo "Nothing is foolproof as fools are ingenious."

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    Actually, as an Army soldier, he did see action. When he was at Fort Lewis in Tacoma, he had taken a day off to go up to Seattle and swim in Green Lake. That day, Army Corporal Clinton Eastwood saved a man from drowning. I think the particulars are on his IMDb page. But, point taken about portraying a Marine.
     
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    Is there a specific engine swap kit to go from the 307 Olds to the 350 Vortec and 350 Chevy transmission?

    If my search for a 350/455 Olds engine is unsuccessful by mid winter, im just going to warm up this Vortec's upper half a bit more and install it.

    Ive seen some posts that said these wagons actually came factory with small block Chevys? I found a Buick 430cui engine but again, needs complete rebuild :slap:
     
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    I'm not aware of any kits available for this swap. The SBC was used in many B-Bodies throughout the 80's so yes it will drop right in. The hardest part will be getting all of the mounts/brackets/etc. details that are always the hardest part when doing an engine swap like this.
     
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    I can't believe no one has done a Vortec swap in a wagon and if it has been done, why no pictures or videos?

    Im sure it's pretty straight forward and self explanatory once i get into it.
     
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    The basics of engine/trans mounting is all the same. What you'll need to know is if the frame mounts are the correct size for SBC engine brackets, and if they are in the correct position for the SBC. If not, the frame mounts can be moved, but it needs to be done with the exhaust manifolds off. I've done this on a GMC pickup and an El Camino, but the design and principals are the same across all GM RWD cars and trucks from the '60s on up.
     
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    Great thanks for the information! The ceramic headers are mid-length but for a 96 Chevy 1500 2wd truck so probaly will need new headers. Hell, if its going to be fairly easy i might just start pulling it now Lol.

    I'll never find a decent priced Olds engine that isn't a pos so i might as well face it, its going to be Chevy powered :huh:. I know everyone is caught up in this LS trend, but I've been reading up on these Vortec's and they have some pretty impressive hp/torque numbers for very little money.
     
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    I think I may have mentioned Vetteman's LS-into-a-Caprice-sedan swap, so if you read it, and saw all his problems not associated with the electronics, then yeah, the Vortec would be the way to go. There are carburetion intakes that will bolt to Vortec heads using the Vortec gaskets, so as long as you have an HEI dizzy for a carbed Chevy engine, with the proper Vortec dizzy driven gear, you'll be pretty set up. And, factory serp belt setups, alternators, starters and A/C compressors are plentiful; I recommend the 17SI alternator and the late 5.7 Vortec PMGR (permanent magnet gear reduction) starter.
     
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    Much appreciated information, thanks! I have all the bolt ons from the truck that the Vortec came out of so i hope it works in the wagon.
    All the accessories seem to be mounted on one big bracket minus the starter of course.

    I have a new MSD dizzy for sbc but i think i have to change the gear to a hardened one? Ive ordered the kit from Summit to mod the Vortec valve train so i can run the XR294HR cam kit.
     
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    Not sure why the aversion to the Buicks, small and big blocks were the most modern GM V-8 until the LS and has loads of torque.
    I remember outrunning numerous "Smokey and the Bandit" Trans Ams in a GS Riviera way back when.
    Your drive-ability issues aren't likely mechanical(engine) but the 307 Olds IS a turd. So many better engines that will bolt in as if they grew there.
    The early Buick's oiling "problem" is a non issue in road use.
    Don't Cadillac 500s use the same bellhousing pattern??
    Found this in 30 seconds: https://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/pts/d/oldsmobile-350buick-455engines-for-sale/6972561228.html
    https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/pts/d/chicago-buick-455-motor-and-trans/6971584206.html
     
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    I personally have nothing against the Buick engine because i have no experience with them.
    Just from web surfing and speaking with a few old school gear heads in my area.

    Biggest complaints I've heard are poor oiling system, weak rotating assembly and slow winding.
     

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