2010 Honda Accord diesel wagon...

only sold in France... why dont Honda sell wagons here again?!!

http://www.honda.fr/accord/index.php

 

These cars are also sold here in the UK.
The 2.2i diesel is an excellent engine. In Europe, the petrol engine is practically dead in cars above 1600 cc. With the Honda, why have a torqueless and thirsty V6 petrol (available in other markets, not Europe) when the 2.2i diesel is almost as fast and does 52 mpg?

 

It makes too much sense, that's why!

We can't have cars here getting 60 miles to the gallon, the big oil companies would have a fit!

 

Our governments want to put stiffer regs on the banks (as they should), but you'd think that while they own Government Motors, that they could direct them to not sell stocks of more than 5% total ownership by the Oil, Battery, LNG, LPG or any energy producer of any type. hmmm.

 

Over in the Philippines, nearly everything except the older passenger cars are diesel. Diesel is the way to go for economics, but I will still run my Gas motors in my toys. Here Diesel is still more expensive then gas and not many stations carry diesel, so it is foolish to own a diesel product in my neck of the woods. Though I would love an old Mercedes Wagon to run Bio-diesel in.

 

If more cars had diesel's then more stations would carry it!

If more diesel's were used the price of it would go down!

There is NO WAY the US is going to have 50 to 60 MPG cars running around like Europe does, the big oil lobby won't have it!

I can betch 'ya anything big oil is lobbying right now to get rid of hydogen & fuel cell cars, hydogen & fuel cell won't happen here!

 

All too very true Clark, sad but true.
Another great reason for me to move to the Philippines in 5 or so more years.

For me to get any diesel, I have to drive 17 miles one way, not very economical when I do 90% of my driving within a 10 mile radius of home. For either me or the wife to get to work, its just under 2 miles one way. She manages a local Restaurant and I do contracting work with the Restaurants owners husband, who lives right next to the restaurant. Not to mention, we are all best friends and my wifes boss if also from the Philippines like my wife and I went to school with my boss.

 

Actually quite the opposite. Law of supply and demand. More demand less of a supply=higher prices. North America refineries use a different refining process than Euope and Asia. I don't know the exact number but I remember reading that out of every barrel of crude US refineries get about 50% gasoline and 25% diesel and the rest is heating oil, jet fuel and other petroleum products. In other countries there refining process concentrates more on diesel. It would cost billions to retool the US refineries and on top of that add the new low sulfur standards and the fact that there is more taxes on diesel and the growing thirst for it around the world makes it more expensive.

 

we need more refineries period!

 

And less tree huggers that are stopping us from drilling where there is oil because it might harm the eco-system of some stupid endangered farting cockroach or some crap.

If its a matter of the fear of eliminating some critter so I can save a buck at the pump, then I volunteer to take my gun and shoot every moving thing in the area to be drilled and then burn the entire area off. There, nothing to protect now, so shut up and let them drill.

 

I worked in the oil industry for a short time. There are many leases that oil companies know have oil that they are sitting on because they don't want to drive down the price of oil further. When the price of oil goes up they drill like crazy then back off when it goes back down. They can build more refineries if they want but that will also drive the price down. There where hundreds of oil refineries in the 80's and they stopped enforcing the Sherman Antitrust laws and the larger oil companies bought a lot of the independents and closed them down. When corporations control our government it's a no win for the citizens.

 

I read somewhere that in the USA, there is a resistance to diesel engines in cars because the fuel is thought of as dirty and just for trucks.
It is dirty, but at filling stations here, you are provided with a little plastic glove so your hand doesn't get soiled if, for example, you are going out to dinner and you need to fill up on the way.
As far as great European diesels are concerned, anything four-cylinder of about 2.0-2.2 litres is the best. You're looking at around 145 bhp, 230 lb/ft @1800 rpm maximum torque, 135-140 mph maximum speed, easy 90 mph cruising, 0-60 mph in about 9 seconds and 55 mpg. Most have a six-speed manual transmission.
BMW etc make bigger six-cylinder diesels of around 3.0 litres, but they are unnecessary in an everyday car.
All that said, though, I'd still rather take a large petrol V8 if I could ever afford to run one.

 

yeah mr trotty, in the uk smaller is better (well, to a point). and there is resistance to diesel..mostly i think because of the 80's faliures, not to mention cold winter issues in days of yore. this isnt helped by the fact that here in the usa we have great open spaces and wide streets. a gas v8 is great here and cheaper overall than diesel. this of course is helped bythe fact that we are also not taxed on every aspect of our cars ...no VAT or conjestion taxes or taxes on engine size,
we pay registration once a year, and its based on the type of vehicle (i.e. 1/2 ton pickup trucks are more than a passenger car wich can even include the villified chevy suburban) and sales tax (depending on where you live) on inital purchase.

here in western pa a unless you have a small car like an escort or focus, very stout 6cyl or v8 is great for the highways as we have a lot of hills ( i was told yesterday by a nurse from edinborough, that my area is very very much like Scotland....which i guess explains the high scot population).

 

Except that many people drive enormous 4x4's here. They are always diesel powered, though.
I love visiting the USA for many reasons, but one of the greatest is to get into a large V8-powered car with bench seats, pull the column-shift automatic into drive and just sit back.
I had a Cadillac DTS last time. A great car, especially with the movie car-chase soundtrack every time I put my foot down to overtake.

 

if you like that you should try a lincoln town car! it has a ride that is even more old school american