50 mpg in a full sized Pickup? Impossible?

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  1. Firewood

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    Up here, our gallon is 5 US quarts. Yesterday, GM had an ad for the new Pickups at 57 MPG HWY/ 27 City. A tractor diesel would have LOTS of torque at low revs.
     
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    If it makes sense California will prohibit it! It sure looks like it would make sense to me.:yup:
     
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    They want 50$ for their book, but I'll bet someone else has figured it out, too. Heck, a used tractor should be pretty cheap.
     
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    I would say that asking $50 for the book is the give away....
     
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    You can get that type of mpg if you want. There lots of mods to do. The thing to understand is that it's not easy and it's not cheap :). If some little gizmo or ebook says something else just ditch it aint true...

    BTW: Going diesel to get 50MPG (that is US MPG) is cheating ;-).

    Cheers Dyna
     
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    There's a whole world of Cummins 4BT converted trucks out there. Getting 35mpg out of a 70s GMC half-ton pickup with a 4-cylinder diesel and a 4-speed isn't bad. Those 4BT's are 3.9 liter engines. I would think the 3.3 liter version could do a little better in a lighter truck. Show me a stripped down 87-91 F-150 short bed with a 3.3 liter Cummmins and a 5-speed stick, I don't see any reason it can't get 40mpg. I would think the ideal size small diesel to get 50mpg would be about 2.5 liter, maybe 90-100hp, 180-220ft-lbs of torque. But a 60-70hp small tractor diesel might do just as well.

    Then again I've been toying with the idea of stripping down a Festiva or Geo Metro, dropping in an 18hp generator-type engine, gasoline, and seeing how close to 65-70mph I can get it to go. Someone did it with a 10hp forklift engine and got up to 45-50mph, sometimes 55mph. A little bit more oomph and it'd be good to go. Biggest problem is making it fit under the hood and still attach to the transmission properly.
     
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