1978 Oldsmobile Toronado

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  1. jaunty75

    jaunty75 Middling Member

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    One of the worst ebay presentations I've seen. Only three photos, all small, taken from a distance, and poorly composed. Little description with misspellings. He says "rebuilt engine and carb." Really? The carb I could see, but why was the engine rebuilt? And exactly what does that mean? Details are needed.

    No mileage is given.

    One thing going for him. You can't beat that shipping price.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/192387836933?ul_noapp=true


    What's that big white blotch forward of the front wheel opening? If the photo had been taken from a closer distance, we might be able to tell.

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    Poison_Ivy The crazy kid in the sandbox

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    Otherwise, a beautiful car. You can't beat the color. I'm skepticle, as to Rebuilds. I'd rather have an untouched engine, if the milage is reasonable. If I were to sell something like that for that price, I wouldn't even mention any rebuild
     
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    It is a good-looking car, from what we can see of it. The problem is, we can't see very much of it.
     
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    The problem is.......it's not a wagon. It's 'Poke a Bear Day' here on the SWF!
     
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    We can tell it originally had a vinyl roof which has been removed. What else is not factory?
     
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    No bids at the $3,500 starting price. Relisted now with a starting bid of $2,978, which is kind of an odd number. No improvement in the presentation. Still the same three lousy photos.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/1978-Oldsm...-rare-factory-moon-roof-/192396875653?vxp=mtr

    I see that at the top of the page, next to "Item Condition," it says "for parts or not working." But his description says it "RUNS GOOD." It was listed this way the first time. Nothing like conflicting information to improve the prospects for a sale.
     
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    It's like a bad penny. He received zero bids on his previous auction with the starting price at $2978. So he's right back listing it again with the same starting price and the same three ridiculous photos. I don't know that more and better photos would help, but they certainly wouldn't hurt. Also, doesn't he notice that, at the top of the auction page, next to "item condition," it says "for parts or not working?" Yes, further down in the listing he mentions that it runs and drives. But how many people see that first line at the top of the page and move on without reading any more of the ad? He's shooting himself in the foot, yet he can't feel the pain. Must have poor circulation down there.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/192428084045?ul_noapp=true
     
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    His other listing for a 75 Eldorado Convertible (linked below) is interesting, too; 1 of the photos is tinier than a postage stamp, there are 5 pics of it (2 in the description) and he literally has "Shipping: $1, Economy Shipping through USPS" as the option. :eek: Something sounds odd here, I see it says "This item has an extended handling time" but is it even an option to send a car through USPS?

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-Cadillac-Eldorado-convertible/192428086393
     
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    Yes, that ad is about as silly in some respects as his ad for the '78 Toro. But I will say that this Eldorado looks outstanding for the money. A '75 Eldo convertible that runs and drives but needs restoration is worth two to three times what he's asking as his starting bid. The photos aren't the greatest, but, from what we can see, it's definitely an interesting car.

    I do like his pricing system. Apparently it's a 2, a 9, and then the year of the car. So his '78 Toro has a starting bid of $2978 and his '75 Caddy has a starting bid of $2975.
     
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    This thing is still for sale. He's had it listed and relisted at least ten times now. Each time, same asking price. Each time he gets zero bids. He hasn't changed a thing in his presentation. Three lousy photos. No change in the description. Still says condition is "For parts or not working," which seems to contradict his ad, which says he just did a tune-up.

    What's the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different result.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/1978-Oldsm...tory-moon-roof-/192566742014?oid=192542224800
     
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    Yeah, pretty much.
     
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    We're getting close to a year that this has been on ebay. Nothing about the listing ever changes. Same three crappy photos, same short, fairly useless description where he says "for parts or not working" in one place and "tuns good" elsewhere, same odd $2978 starting price. In looking back through some of his past auction attempts for this car, I don't think he's ever gotten even a single bid.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/192694372852?ul_noapp=true

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