1977 Mercury Cougar Villager Brougham

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    Looks clean, especially the interior and dnoc. But crusty along the bottom, and the rear bumper. I wonder how crusty the rest is. Maybe without the crustiness, they could get that kinda money.
     
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    True. I don't think they'll get anywhere near that with that rust.

    Despite it being a one year only model (technically 2 years -- '77 and '82, although '82 is a Fox body) there seem to be quite a number surviving, even if they aren't advertised for sale on the internet very often.

    I like the description of condition as "Excellent". Maybe for Milwaukee, it is, but even for Maryland -- we're in the rust belt -- this is a "Fair" car at best.

    I'd have to say $3500 tops, and that may be generous.
     
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    Still there despite the really ratty rear bumper.

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    I'm just troubled by this part of the ad copy:

    "It's has a V8 351 Windsor modified engine. This wagon is all original."
     
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    Nice looking wagon except for all the rust.
     
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    After being on the market for a year, you'd think the seller would realize it might be a little over priced. And that it will take more than a $1500 price drop to move it.
     
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    Blame Ford for making two different engines of the exact same displacement at the same time and putting them into the same cars and calling one "Modified". I am guessing that is what he means versus modified as in upgraded/changed/etc. He probably doesn't know which one he has and assumes that Windsor and Modified are synonymous with each other.
     
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    Ford folks are very familiar with this; it's no problem at all. They're easily distinguishable by the valve covers (not to mention underhood stickers).

    I believe the reason for making two different design engines of the same displacement was because neither engine plant could produce enough units to satisfy demand. By the way, Ford never officially defined the "M" of the 351M as meaning "Modified". That usage came from other sources. It might just as easily stand for "Michigan", that being the location of one the plants that produced it (along the same lines as "W" for the Windsor plant and "C" for the Cleveland plant).

    Chevy is not without sin when it comes to causing confusion amongst the uninitiated. They had a 402 "big block" that they called a 396 in cars one year, a 402 in others, and a 400 in trucks -- all at the same they were producing a 400 "small block".

    And need I mention the MoPar 383s -- one a "B" engine, the other an "RB"?

    And then there are the "mix and match" GM 350s of 1977, where you didn't know which division produced your engine.

    Since the seller of this Cougar once seemed to think it was worth $8K (no extra charge for the rust), I'm inclined to believe he has little grasp of what 351 means, much less the Windsor vs. Modified designations.
     
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    I don't recall ever saying GM and Chrysler didn't do the same thing.
    Ergo my comment. He probably saw references to Windsors and Modifieds (regardless of what the M actually stands for if anything this is a regularly used term when referring to the 351M) and assumed they were the same and just combined them together.

    You seemed to go way off on a tangent when my point was that he calls the engine "Modified" most likely in error thinking that was what the engine was called and probably did not mean to infer that the engine was modified as we would use the term.
     
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    MIGHT get some interest (finally) at that price......
     

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