1975 Pontiac Grand Am

400 V8.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-Pontiac-Grand-AM-Arizona-Car-/191663309093?_trksid=p2054897.l4275

 

Ouch!!!!!!

 

I had a model of this style Grand Am when I was in junior high. Fell victim to Black Cat firecrackers.

 

Just in case anyone thinks the broken nose is due to an accident, most likely just falling apart from age. The material used on to make the 73-75 GA header panels was not the same as the earlier Endura material used on Pontiac's from 68-72. And just does not hold up well to UV exposer. Most original noses look like this example.
Not a bad price at the moment ($1700) but would need a lot of work. And not the most attractive Color Combination. I had an opera window version in those exact colors back in the early 80's. I kept getting hit on by guuys of questionable sexual preference while driving it. It had to go!

 

That's what the car will look like 164 years from now. I wonder what it looks like today?

 

Actually considering we are back to the future that's not a bad looking car.
Sadly most us won't be here then.

 

I didn't actually read the text, I always love it when the seller says "it will be worth more than $30,000 when done) all you have to do is repair the rust, put on a new $1200 fiberglass nose, repaint it, redo the interior, get the dash recovered, ect......

 

"Its worth over $30000 when done" after putting twice that into it.

 

I've never seen an Endura or later nose self-destruct like that! That's not a normal thing to happen; certainly in the Southern Plains and the Rockies. Might have something to do with the salty crap on the roads in the Rust Belt that causes this to happen.

 

I don't know about your world but notice how faded that nose piece is. The sun here in Florida will deteriorate cheap platic lawn chairs just like that in a few years and they are thicker.
Conbine the sun and slamming the hood on a brittle nose and you have that.
Being in a desert I'm sure the sun gets warm.

 

Anyone who has never had a '73-75 Grand Am won't have experienced the lousy design that was these noses. Nice and pliable and soft when new, cracked and disintegrated by 6-7 years old. Even NOS parts in boxes on a shelf that were never installed will crack and be brittle\broken upon removing them. They made a mistake in how they made them, same with the '74 bumper strips on the full size GM lines: they disintegrated due to too much chalk in the manufacturing process!

And the guy is high if he thinks that car will ever be worth close to $30k. The colonnade body style has never (and likely never will) command big bucks. It would have to be a 4 speed car to have any desire by the fans of them, and even then you'd be hard pressed to get $30k for any factory examples. I had one of these cars for years, I know! For the price he's asking, there are much better examples to start from that won't require anywhere near the investment here.

 

I had a '74 Laguna SS with a nose made of the same material. Looked nothing at all that bad! Not even close!

He's on crack at the $30K valuation.

 

My comment of Ouch!! was directed at the amount of work this poor car will need.

 

If the year was actually 2179, I would say it looked pretty good for it's age.:confused:

 

Patrick, the nose material on the 73-75 GA's was specific to that model, as far as I can tell it was never used on any other car types. (thank God!!!) As was stated it literally just starts cracking from age, I to have seen properly stored NOS parts crack during installation. One of the reasons I have never bought another one of them. Just a few examples from the net. Some worse than others. I have seen much worse noses than the one for sale.
While I will not rule out salt could have an effect, I have seen plenty of bad GA noses on original south west cars. UV rays and time seem to be bigger factors on the deterioration.
And I agree the sellers estimate of $30,000 value is far from realistic. Very nice low mileage 455 or 400 4-speed cars have trouble getting much above 1/2 that price.