1964 Pontiac Tempest Wagon

Anyone for a nice reasonably priced Pontiac Wagon. mg:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/20129985180...51808&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME:SS:SS:US:3160

 

Another one smok'in CRACK! Why would you FULLY RESTORE a 7,000 mile car?

 

bet he owns that one a while...........selling to support his drug habit, perhaps?

 

Says an 88,000 original mile car before restoration, but he's still smokin something with that price.

Jim

 

I'd guess the wagon probably had 188k on the clock at the time of the restoration. Add the 7k since and the car has a total of 195k on it.

 

That IS a beautiful wagon, but I just don't get where these guys come up with these ridiculous prices. There's no way he could have that much invested in the car, and even if he did it sure isn't worth that. This is one thing which kills the car hobby, when cars are priced out of reach of hobbyists and are only affordable to rich investors. I don't think it would kill him to reduce his profit margin a little. Unless, there's a gun to his head...

 

Yes the price is outrageous. Yes the car is stunning.

 

Ever write a check to a restoration shop for a car? It can easily approach that level or more. If the guy can't do any of his own work and farmed it out, you bet that's easily how much he has into it.

Doesn't make it worth it though!

 

Nope, I'm a hobbyist. I try to do as much work as possible myself. I don't build show cars as my budget doesn't allow it. All of my cars have been nice drivers. Whenever I've sold a car, I'm lucky to even get my money invested back, although usually not. The enjoyment of ownership and driving the cars is my reward. Considering what basic shop labor is today, I'm sure you're correct about restoration prices. Despite the investment, it still isn't worth the asking price.

 

Rule One: If you restore a station wagon -- with the possible exception of a Tri-Five Nomad or certain real woodies, you do it for love of the car, because there's about a snowball's chance in hell you'll get your money out of it.

For that kind of money, it's worth noting that this "restoration" isn't really a restoration. There are several -- admittedly minor -- modifications I spotted very quickly in my glance at the pics. Air cleaner, valve covers, a/c compressor, etc. are non-original style. These mean points off in a restoration class at a show. And I suspect the mods are too mild for it to be competitive in a modified class. Everything looks well done, but it's a lot of money for a car to impress people at the local cruise-in.

 

I agree, the Pontiac Comunity will tolerate, the valve covers and the air cleaner, but for some reason they seem to HATE the Buick style Red 326-4 air cleaner stickers. Also I do not think the car has a heater core? At least I do not see a stock one, and I am assuming the 4 knobs on the dash between the radio and the center A/C vent are the A/C controls?

It is about the 5th 64 Tempest or GTO I have seen with a Bright Red interior and a White Head liner. Pontiac must have been short red head liners in 64. Nice looking car, worth about 1/2 the asking price to me. But I have had sticker shock by some shops estimates so if he did pay someone for a "frame off" I know he could have almost double the asking price into the car.