Is this a station wagon?

Discussion in 'General Station Wagon Discussions' started by archer, Jan 16, 2010.

  1. archer

    archer New Member

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    just wondering if the mini cooper clubman qualifies as a station wagon :scratchchin:

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  2. Steve-E-D

    Steve-E-D Well-Known Member

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    Small but still rather wagonish to me.
    9.2/32.8 cu/ft cargo.
    I'd call it a compact wagon.

    I'm a bit old school in defining the term "station wagon". To me that requires the capacity to carry a full load of passengers AND all their luggage.
    I see a clear distinction between "compact wagons" and "station wagons". Same basic vehicle type, but just a matter of scale.
     
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    No I dont think it is. Its like asking if the scion xb is a van ..... No its not
     
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    Fat Tedy Island Red Neck

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    Funny you mention vans....IMO all the front wheel drive wana be things that call them selves mini vans....they are not!

    This little thing although not my taste, as steve mentioned is in the compact wagon family.

    Those who own a clamshell or even your self 27 could keep one on the roof during a road trip...some where dry to keep stuff and ya never know when your gona get a flat, at least you could drive to get it repaired rather than wait for road side help:rofl:
     
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    AUTO NEWS PRESS calls it a compact wagon! but too small, for serious comparsion to others in its field, too costly to be famliy friendly.:tiphat:
    It is on a streched wheelbase from the Mini-Cooper.
     
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    BigFordMan New Member

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    NO!....That's not even close to being a REAL station wagon. Sorry.
     
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    I dunno , anyone remember the 1971 Volvo Sportwagon P- 1800 ? they were refered to as wagons in their day . Ed Shaver
     
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    It is not a lot different that the old style mini-wagon, just the new version. [​IMG]

    Same goes for the Morris Minor woody wagon - small, and yeah, they really looked like a wagon, but what would that wagon look like today?

    I was looking at the new Caddy station wagon on Wednesday and I struggled to determine if it was a wagon but it is, or how it is sold. Not my personal take on a wagon but who ever buys it is doing so because to them it is as much wagon as they need.

    It doesn't hurt or bother me that it is called a wagon. It is another person who has something different than a Joe-stock car and that is a pretty good start, that person obviously likes wagons or they wouldn't have shown up on the forum, and they may get the urge to add a full scale wagon to add to their collection. But regardless, as the P1800 wagon was mentioned earlier, it is in the eye of the beholder, and particularly when it is marketed as a wagon by the manufacturer.

    If I had the money, and the space, I'd take one of each, and I'd certainly take one of those without flinching and add it to my wish list group of toys.

    That's my take on it -

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    To me that is not a wagon. They could be saying that a 88 Honda Civic with the rear hatch be claimed asa wagon. The older mini's wagons were more like a wagon.
    To me anything short like that is not a wagon. If they claim it is a wagon, I guess a smart car can be a wagon also.
    Me personally a wagon is the ones with real endgates that you can open and sit on and have a picnic lunch on.
     
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    mini clubman: imho, yes its a wagon.

    i dont consider only "big wagons to be wagons" for me if the length of the roof is proportionate to height. ...and there is a non-wagon version....then its a wagon, with 3 exceptions. 1. Ford Flex, c'mon...look at it. its a wagon.
    2. Ford Freestyle/taurus X, there is a sedan version...and well, look at it!
    3. Chrysler Pacifica, dunno, just hits me as a wagon.
     
  11. archer

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    i think of it as a wagon - albiet a really small one!
    Why?
    simple. you can put the back seat down, open up the rear doors, and stuff as much in as the space allows.

    it's also a wagon to me cuz i've always had a thing for wagons with ambulance style doors (ie the volvo pv445)

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    its a BIG Dinky toy....but ...ya!!.(y)
    ..that model has a split tailgate...when it grows up..itll be a wagon:D

    ...so...ya...sorta ..kinda;)
     
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    I will go with a wagon for all the reasons previously. Kind of like how the Chevy HHR could be considered the Chevy Cobalt wagon, just with the retro-PT Chrysler-like styling. BTW, I don't cinder the PT Cruiser w=a wgon.
     
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    The new Clubman is actually larger than the original Mini wagon of the '60s. My brother owns a new Clubman and a '64 Mini Cooper S. The '64 would easily fit inside the new Mini.
     
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    Blackfoot Wagonless Soul

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    I would call that a rolling coffin. I hate them little thing, impossible to work on and even a chore to change the oil in them.

    But yes, I consider it a wagon, though a piss poor attempt at one.
     

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