78 Buick Wagon

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  1. rrbnut

    rrbnut 1991 Mercury Grand marquis Colony Park LS Wagon

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    http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/cto/3957073362.html

    guy needs to sell it as he is moving;went to see it, drives nice, 2 small rips in dash, front seats need to be done; no rust, all there, lots of work done and extra parts, headliner not original but good, might have small leak in exhaust; wanted $2500, now down to $1100;will clean up very nice but is not for me
     
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    Sounds like a good deal for someone!
     
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    Looks like a heck of a good deal!
     
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    I'll say! nice clean car for the money. The add says 350, but that's not a Buick 350, is it the Olds 350?
     
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    Brad Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Yep, that's an Olds motor. You can tell by the oil fill tube sticking up in the middle.
     
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    hmmm

    not bad, not bad, don't get me wrong, I'm just not terribly enthused with this one---even with the $1 price tag... (is he really going to sell it for a dollar?) Is it better off for having the Olds engine? Have many friends, some of whom like GM products, who are convinced all GM 350's are the same damn thing...
     
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    Taranau: Get your friends to clean their ears! There is a significant difference between the different 350 engines. Put them, bone stock, one after another on the same dyno and you will see. The Chev tends to make the most horsepower, but the least torque of the bunch. The Buick, which is my favorite, has the most torque lower in the revs, and is capable of quite acceptable fuel economy. The Olds 350 has a different driving feel and very different sound than the others, too. That this wagon has the Olds engine is, to me, a great disappointment. The only 350 I want is the Buick. Much nicer to drive as well as being noticeably quieter.
     
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    whoa

    some of these friends are mechanics as well... although, the only one of them to work on any of my cars, was my brother-in-law the VW repairman. and he only worked on my VW's and helped me work on my Dodge. had always wondered about that claim, seeing as how Ford had at least five different 289's, at one time. From an old magazine I saw once, the 327 actually started out as GM's Sherman tank engine. The first GM vehicle to get it as it's engine was the Pontiac Apache pick-up truck of the late 40's. A few years later and both the 327 and the Apache pick-up truck were over at Chevy. BUT, every brand of GM vehicle had a version of the 327. It doesn't surprise me that GM tuned their engines to each brand, since each brand came with it's own reputation and purpose. "That Pontiac Sound" and all...
     
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    You don't even have to that far, just a visual can tell you the difference.....


    Buick.......
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    Olds....
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    Chevy....
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    Pontiac.....
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  10. KevinVarnes

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    I'm not up on my Anticop's, but that last one looks like a Chevy to me.
     
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    Tedy, I think that last one is a Canadian Pontiac engine, which means it is a Chevy. The REAL Pontiac engines were painted a blue-ish green colour, and were a completely different engine.

    As for there being no differences in the engines, in the late 70s, there was a class action suit because people who bought Oldsmobiles were delivered cars with Chevrolet engines. At the time, the courts decided that this was improper, as part of the up charge in list price between the comparable Chevrolet and Oldsmobile models was accounted for by the $250 difference in the cost of manufacturing the Oldsmobile V-8 versus the Chev. It was immediately after that G.M. started putting the fine print in the brochures that your car could be supplied with an engine from any of the different G.M. divisions, availability determined by geographic location of original delivery.
     

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