Oh Well 75 Buick estate totaled by a drunk!

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  1. Brad

    Brad Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    GEICO is one of the worst ones to pull this kind of crap. Progressive is another. Give you guys "insider" information...if they advertise a lot everywhere, they are probably the ones NOT to have your insurance with.

    Question for the OP: Do you have Antique and Classic insurance on the Buick? Do you have Comprehensive and Collision on the Buick? If you don't, then your company, by contract, can't do anything to help you.

    Post up your insurance questions, glad to answer any I can...
     
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    I guess this is another difference I don't understand between the US and my province of BC car insurance. I've only had Comprehensive and Collision on my wife's new van/SUV and gave up paying the extra after her van got to 8 years old. Me not having either I'm still covered if a accident is not my fault, yet if I'm at fault I'm SOL. I do carry a 3 million liability though incase (knock on wood) I do end up in a crash that is my fault and injure someone
     
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    In most cases, here in the US the Uninsured Motorists Property Damage coverage will not provide coverage to the auto if: 1) The at fault party fled the scene and cannot be determined who they are or 2) The at fault party has insurance but the other company denies coverage for whatever reason or even partially blames you for the accident (comparative negligence). At least in Ohio that's the way it works.

    I'm guessing the OP does not have his car covered for physical damage. Most standard companies will not cover an auto that old for comp and collision and antique and classic carriers the covered auto must be in a fully enclosed garage/building before they would cover the car. What the OP should do is to get a copy of the accident report and re-contact GEICO and send them the report. This is an old ploy of theirs (GEICO) to try to push off to another carrier (if the damaged party carries comp and collision) so they don't have to adjust the loss. Saves them money in the claims process as they don't send out people to see the loss, adjust the loss or make a payment right away. The OP should also contact his state Department of Insurance and file a complaint. That will at least get the ball rolling for him since his company cannot pay for his damages.
     
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    More double talk on insurance. Here in Florida every driver has to have car insurance. And every driver has to carry no fault and uninsured motorist insurance to cover drivers in Florida with no insurance. But to get a drivers license plate or tag, as some call it, you must have car insurance. So why do we need no fault and uninsured motorist insurance for drivers without insurance if they need insurance?:confused:
    Rumor is one in four Florida drivers has no insurance or maybe no driver license or legal tags. When you pull up to a four way stop one or more are driving ilegally. Maybe one is drunk. Maybe one is driving with road rage. Maybe one is a wanted criminal or illegal alien. If the other three are legal that leaves you. Happy motoring.
    Also many of my cars are considered antiques even though I don't have antique tags on them all or antique insurance. I do however carry full coverage and $500 deductable for collision. Comp seems to be fully covered at least for glass.

    Everytime I turn on this computer or change pages I see offers for cheap car insurance that my insurance company don't want me to read. Those are similar to the ads for getting my house payments lowered if I owe under $650,000 on it. Yea like a lot of my friends owe more.

    Insurance companies beg us to switch to save more money then when we need them the stories change. Somehow we were forced to carry car insurance and pay increasing premiums for less coverage. Yes still better than being crashed into by someone with no insurance, no job, and no decency.
    Only in America....Canada, and other places.:slap:
     
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    So, what I posted was double talk? I was just trying to help out a fellow board member and Buick owner. I guess I'll shut up and let you guys find out on your own...
     
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    No what you wrote was very intersting. What our insurance companies and government say is double talk.
    At least in Florida we are told we must have car insurance to get our car tag.
    We can not get the car tag or license plate without proof of insurance. Yet we must be insured to cover other drivers without insurance. That there is double talk.
     
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    Sorry, I misunderstood you. I understand completely your frustration. In Ohio, we don't even have to show proof of insurance to renew a drivers license or get tags. Sign a form is all that says we promise to keep insurance on the vehicle or that we have insurance that covers us. They DO however send out random checks for proof of insurance. You ignore one of those and your world stops spinning very quickly.

    I will say this. Not to murder people is a moral decision that each of us makes on a daily basis. Buying insurance is also a moral decision one must make. You can't legislate morality but you can make the penalties such that you wish you had made the proper, moral decision.
     
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    I have liability and comprehensive. No classic or antique because I have
    no where it keep it inside every night.

    I was told(and I asked) when I got the comp if my car was covered for ANYTHING that was not my fault. And was told it was, with everything we have in the policy. The agent has however been taken over by new people(daughter son something like that) And I do not know if it was "changed" after the new people took over.
     
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    Same here in PA no insurance no plates and if it is dropped and you do not send in your plate they take your license. We also have an uninsured motorist deal but I think it's covered in license renewal and fine fees.
     
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    I'm kinda worried about my 55 wagon license tag. It is now due for renewal and insurance will run out mid February. I informed DMV I was not renewing it since we are someday moving to Illinois and will renew there.
    But my experience with these matters may end up getting my license suspended. I will not give them my old tag. I paid nearly $100 for it and it's a 1955 Florida tag. I just plan on removing it. Wagon is in garage anyway.
    At least I shouldn't get anymore phoney toll booth tickets.
     
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    Our Antique/classic plates here are 1 time pay only they stay with the car forever(long as it's in pa I would imagine) and when you sell the car your plate goes with it

    I ACTUALLY got a call from the Geico co today and sent pics of the truck and MANY of my car(inside and out) and the scene!
     
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    My wagon does not have antique plates. I have an original 1955 Florida plate that I bought at a swap meet. I think it's safe to just remove it and keep the plate.


    That sounds good. Hopefully they will get on the other insurance company.
    What happens when both customers have the same insurance?
    I should know this. My daughter works for an insurance company. But we never talk business.
     
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    Geico IS the other ins co.

    Knowing my co they would probably RAISE MY RATES! If we both had the same! lol
     
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    You're not always in good hands.

    It's terrible how insurance companies are able to manipulate us. Many years ago my mother had a well known car insurance for a long time. Never had an accident or ticket. Out of the blue she got canceled.
    The reason...... 'You are a bad risk. You've been driving a long time accident free."
    I heard this was common practice. May still be. I do know our rates can go up with a claim even if it was the other guy's fault. The time I got hit by a drunk driver in midwinter it took months to get the claim settled. Can't remember if my own insurance went up. I do remember having to personally call and write the other people and their company. Made me wonder why I even had insurance.:cry:
     
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    Sounds like you need a good insurance agent. None of my companies would cancel your mom or raise your rate as you described. I have 7 different companies in the agency I own and if any one of them would try such a stunt, they would be kicked to the curb and the business I have with them would be moved to another, better, carrier. I would then advise my client to report such actions to the State Insurance Commissioner and contact legal councel.

    The mistake many people make is to buy insurance as a commodity, like bread or milk. Insurance is far from that and everyone needs to have an Independent Agent working for THEM and not the company on their side (BTW, they are NOT on your side or have good hands) . Not doing so is making a huge error. Oh, cheapest isn't always the best. You get what you pay for.
     
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